Tape 015 - Clip 3
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Yeah because Gordons been working on it all along right...for security whats
gonna happen is...were pretty boned...Jeffs gonna release the check list of the
things that need to be done he said it shouldnt be that bad he just doesnt want to
figure out the Mac projects all on his own which is reasonable right so the
second that hes ready were gonna grab Chris and or some other somebody at
Mac desk to sit down with him and figure this out
OK how late is Christ gonna be here
Well Jeffs not gonna be ready tonight Jeffs not be ready til tomorrow so we
dont have to worry about this right nowSo all we have to worry about is getting
the initial Java dumped tonight so that we can get most of the code in verify that
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reopen the tree and then tomorrow we can go back and see what minor tweeks we
need to make in order to flip the switch.0
What sort of verification are we gonna do on Java..
TH It depends on Im not gonna make my engineers stay here until 10clock if they
dont want to We can either do it in the bull pen verification on build machines or
we can do finder box verification Id kinda like to in the bull pen verification
because it would be faster and Ill be alot more sure of the results
Well its more controlled You can do an the bull pen verification you can do that
remote control right
TEl Yeah realistically yeah...well Im gonna go talk to my guys and see what they
want to do so cause were not going to be able leave any earlier tomorrow so
dont want to bum em out to quick
Well it its like Gordons back in an hour
TH And so is Rick Potts Were not nothing gonna start happening until 10 which
means verification can start at 11 at the soonest So for Mac that will be pretty
quick build its 45 minutes start to finish...yeah oh Chris..
OK and we know what kind of pain were in for..
TEl For Windows and 1IRX for the IRX build were probably looking at an hour and
hajf sobetweetr1t1OOfiUollii1OP1ethiflZtthat Not too bad4 an4 then
well do the tinder box stuff concurrently and well do optimize ND bug to make
sure we didnt screw anything up there
OKso Paul went home to do laundry
TEl Thank god
Thank god and Dagly and Scott are still here and Dagly is starting to fade Id
rather than Scott start to fade hes having problem right now Jiemember the
stuff he said he was going to have in tonight We hit snag mean it all works
hes gthe tools checked in weve got build problem right and it has to do with
to
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XP strings.R right cause hes having top replicate alot more of the code and too
front end...yeah so its real pain in the ass1and thats gate on some of the other
work that he was gonna do ..he not going in tomorrow until wasting power plan
\nght
TH CaiiWe-reassign any of his list
think we can probably get the power plant reassigned the other problem is
is ..Paul hit bunch of snags on Moz-meduim right and he hit some interesting
cases and wanted to know what you thought about this know this is making
your night Sorry we didnt make it over to...did you guys go to La Fiesta
TH Oh yeah
Yeah it looks like it Urn. .uh we were actually trying to do documentation we
were sitting in room for an hour and half..idiots OK so the problem hes
running into to is weve got mail and new..
break
Why dont you consider the rest of the Mac staff and me on call and well see
what happens Whats the worst case scenario It just bums all night
TH Worst case scenario is it bums all night but damned if Im gonna let that happen
obviously..
Theyre-theyre looking at the
Til What
What on windows
UNIX ones UNIX
That would be bad
Til That would be bad Lets go downstairs Come on Steve
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Youre Mac is on speed again by the way
Okay great
TH Okay great Mac is burning all day and day and now..
Have you had chance of getting
They got it to work right
TH This thing that you were just talking about
Breeder code
TH Yes thank you thats the word was looking for
Okay Good
TH Lets put more bugs on Michaels list itll make him happy Makes him feel
wanted
Okayum-
Were down to the twenties very briefly were like 27..
Oh you want to get .information
Um so do we have any other issues that were gonna worry about tonight Steve
No just to get it running again so- Ijust watched it and it say hey youre already
running copy and Im like no Im not oh shit
laughter
TH that right Pete
Well if thats the last ...I hope you can do it on windows
dont know what Karen to make sure you could run builds on windows
Ah what the hell What are we all on the first floor
TI-1 uh because were going to
.. youre on the first floor because you didnt get out on the second
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It didnt stop on the second right
TM Now whos fault is that okay white boy
La
wasnt standing next to the buttons Chris was
Whats all the light in here for
TH No dont show it over there
Yes exactly
You know
Its dark Its really dark
Okay lets see
TH Im about to be unhappy Okay
Scott
TH No because then Mark and will show up Did ever tell you the story
No what you need to do when you see it burning like that all red you need to rent
garment or something like that
TH laughs like this shirt
Okay what-what di-what like here
TH This is the same oh Danm it
Who di-who broke into this Thats what you were saying
TH I-Well you know dont know hang on
You were calling Romero at home is he still checking in turds or
Oh Shit
Cause he-hes my responsibility Im supposed to watch him
TH This is the same stuff Don
Huh
We dont know
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Im not here
Yes you are
TH MHiney Shit call on speaker phone made Tell me again what you thought
that uh cause all of the sudden the clobber buiJds are burning now too the
same issue
Taras thinking youre wrong Don
ave no-I wasnt sure what the anything there
that looked like it might be security related other than the fact-I mean
TH Other than the fact that those are security calls
That some of-well some of them were theres other ones were like Motif calls
gonna happen is...were pretty boned...Jeffs gonna release the check list of the
things that need to be done he said it shouldnt be that bad he just doesnt want to
figure out the Mac projects all on his own which is reasonable right so the
second that hes ready were gonna grab Chris and or some other somebody at
Mac desk to sit down with him and figure this out
OK how late is Christ gonna be here
Well Jeffs not gonna be ready tonight Jeffs not be ready til tomorrow so we
dont have to worry about this right nowSo all we have to worry about is getting
the initial Java dumped tonight so that we can get most of the code in verify that
fl a.qc ze
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Tape 15 3/10/98
reopen the tree and then tomorrow we can go back and see what minor tweeks we
need to make in order to flip the switch.0
What sort of verification are we gonna do on Java..
TH It depends on Im not gonna make my engineers stay here until 10clock if they
dont want to We can either do it in the bull pen verification on build machines or
we can do finder box verification Id kinda like to in the bull pen verification
because it would be faster and Ill be alot more sure of the results
Well its more controlled You can do an the bull pen verification you can do that
remote control right
TEl Yeah realistically yeah...well Im gonna go talk to my guys and see what they
want to do so cause were not going to be able leave any earlier tomorrow so
dont want to bum em out to quick
Well it its like Gordons back in an hour
TH And so is Rick Potts Were not nothing gonna start happening until 10 which
means verification can start at 11 at the soonest So for Mac that will be pretty
quick build its 45 minutes start to finish...yeah oh Chris..
OK and we know what kind of pain were in for..
TEl For Windows and 1IRX for the IRX build were probably looking at an hour and
hajf sobetweetr1t1OOfiUollii1OP1ethiflZtthat Not too bad4 an4 then
well do the tinder box stuff concurrently and well do optimize ND bug to make
sure we didnt screw anything up there
OKso Paul went home to do laundry
TEl Thank god
Thank god and Dagly and Scott are still here and Dagly is starting to fade Id
rather than Scott start to fade hes having problem right now Jiemember the
stuff he said he was going to have in tonight We hit snag mean it all works
hes gthe tools checked in weve got build problem right and it has to do with
to
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XP strings.R right cause hes having top replicate alot more of the code and too
front end...yeah so its real pain in the ass1and thats gate on some of the other
work that he was gonna do ..he not going in tomorrow until wasting power plan
\nght
TH CaiiWe-reassign any of his list
think we can probably get the power plant reassigned the other problem is
is ..Paul hit bunch of snags on Moz-meduim right and he hit some interesting
cases and wanted to know what you thought about this know this is making
your night Sorry we didnt make it over to...did you guys go to La Fiesta
TH Oh yeah
Yeah it looks like it Urn. .uh we were actually trying to do documentation we
were sitting in room for an hour and half..idiots OK so the problem hes
running into to is weve got mail and new..
break
Why dont you consider the rest of the Mac staff and me on call and well see
what happens Whats the worst case scenario It just bums all night
TH Worst case scenario is it bums all night but damned if Im gonna let that happen
obviously..
Theyre-theyre looking at the
Til What
What on windows
UNIX ones UNIX
That would be bad
Til That would be bad Lets go downstairs Come on Steve
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Youre Mac is on speed again by the way
Okay great
TH Okay great Mac is burning all day and day and now..
Have you had chance of getting
They got it to work right
TH This thing that you were just talking about
Breeder code
TH Yes thank you thats the word was looking for
Okay Good
TH Lets put more bugs on Michaels list itll make him happy Makes him feel
wanted
Okayum-
Were down to the twenties very briefly were like 27..
Oh you want to get .information
Um so do we have any other issues that were gonna worry about tonight Steve
No just to get it running again so- Ijust watched it and it say hey youre already
running copy and Im like no Im not oh shit
laughter
TH that right Pete
Well if thats the last ...I hope you can do it on windows
dont know what Karen to make sure you could run builds on windows
Ah what the hell What are we all on the first floor
TI-1 uh because were going to
.. youre on the first floor because you didnt get out on the second
zaccz3
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It didnt stop on the second right
TM Now whos fault is that okay white boy
La
wasnt standing next to the buttons Chris was
Whats all the light in here for
TH No dont show it over there
Yes exactly
You know
Its dark Its really dark
Okay lets see
TH Im about to be unhappy Okay
Scott
TH No because then Mark and will show up Did ever tell you the story
No what you need to do when you see it burning like that all red you need to rent
garment or something like that
TH laughs like this shirt
Okay what-what di-what like here
TH This is the same oh Danm it
Who di-who broke into this Thats what you were saying
TH I-Well you know dont know hang on
You were calling Romero at home is he still checking in turds or
Oh Shit
Cause he-hes my responsibility Im supposed to watch him
TH This is the same stuff Don
Huh
We dont know
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Im not here
Yes you are
TH MHiney Shit call on speaker phone made Tell me again what you thought
that uh cause all of the sudden the clobber buiJds are burning now too the
same issue
Taras thinking youre wrong Don
ave no-I wasnt sure what the anything there
that looked like it might be security related other than the fact-I mean
TH Other than the fact that those are security calls
That some of-well some of them were theres other ones were like Motif calls
