Tape 015 - Clip 2
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plan is well call the cheating move the Jeff Weinstein call which is you check in
all the stuff and you didnt throw the switch
Now thatll get us out of merge hell so we wont have to fight with other people
and then we can go on continue de-bugging
By another day or two
Truth be known it gets us little bit out of the limelight but the reality is we still
start getting
Yeah yeah but at least other people wont be waiting for us so lets..
Does that sound reasonable Is it cheating way to thats how we relax the
people Its-its gettingits too intense like its like
I-i-i-it allows us to stabilize whatever dumb thing you do
Right laughs
Makes us
Right and now we can try throwing the switch and we can also call up the next guy
and say why dont you try throwing the switch and help us debug whats going
on in alot of
they
and well have an easier time spreading the load and getting
L2
some processing right so
Do you know who works for these days Is he at now
dont know
garbled sounds
Really annoying bell in your ear for the past few sentences
Now thats the plan for 10 oclock right now And you know were just looking
at it and guessing when it doesnt work out..
Pc f/Jft7
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ambient sound
2-
Are you guys X-heads in the skies
Uh no
Okay
So youre off the hook Never mind
did know that Whats his number Call him at who
Hang on-whatis it
494-..
You dont need power Geez therere all these wonderful people there at
Netscape you know...you know and your socialite extraordinaire and this is your
big chance to broaden your horizon and uh
What else we got here..
What is it youre trying to talk me into at Netscape..
Just come over and just take look at where our head is..
Okay..
This..
Its not that hard
Hey how you doing
All right
You feel like shit
All right need an X-Head and all of you are gone need someone whos like
fairly reasonable with like the stuff for Java script Who would that be
77 bleep7
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God these
Yes we did
We went over the Moz-Moz light
Yep 826-5285 Where does he live
How are things going with Mozilla.corn do you think
Oh Christ...alight whats his number
Urn the mail coding is still think people are really upset about it
Have you started to publicize that and say stuff about it
No mean Im still trying to make it go out and urn..
think even if youre gonna make it go out it doesnt hurt to go public and say
youre worried about it..
Well weve already mentioned that we have this problem with the database code
they know that its not gonna work if it does go out
Think of it this way them might be three things two things that cant go out so it
we bring up three that are giving us trouble and we save one were fighting ..the
claim is were trusting the net so...Tara was saying that it really makes sense to..
break
TH
Romero
this is Tara we have bit of panicked emergency do you know
anything about the thirding functions and the XFP that calls into Java and Java
Script
Yeah well essentially yeah theyre getting deeper and doope into in and theyre
trying to figure out what the hells going on So MacAfee said either you or Tosha
and you were closer so tried you first...all right Ill give him
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Its all based on an environment variable..
Right and how are we going to do an environment variable the meg system on the
Mac and get project files
TM Hi Chris its Tara...um how much do you love me Good What do you know
about like threading stuff that falls into Java stuff and Java makes it feed OK
were you following this thread on heads that we were having in the last day or
two about ..OK so the Java guy has hit
really big huge brick wall If you were
conferenced called into bunch of engineers you think you might be able to offer
some insight on this
Nick Thompson he went away. .oh man all right well yeah ..they bugged into
the XFE and think thats where the problem there may be some residual fit rock
stuff that were just now seeing because of some IF DEPs that we were using that
we werent supposed to use so..
Were going to go in and that will
get us out of merge hell so we wont have to
worry about merging and well be able to de bug and we can spread the debugging
further across ..get an guy to pull the tree and help us to figure out what the
blank is going on So thinks this helps to get us out of merge hell help release
the tree and get us some more assistance So dont
like the release the tree part
TH like that to...Cochack says once you get something up and running hes got the
source in front of him you can conference call him in but he says the person
teal1ywant is Nick Thompson laughter Thats what said
Well no thats not gonnàhappen He no longer works here
So...whats gonna happen with
TM OK were shutting this...well thats for
security and Java For either for both
You ohoLId be
o7 t3
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Tape 15 3/10/98
Were not gonna worry about it
TH You should be
Oh theres something dont know then
TH Well ..means that the switch that we have to throw..
JR Is gordie going to be here late tonight Does he need any help
hes coming back at 10 and so is Rick so were going to be working Windows
were gonna get Windows straightened out but it sounds like the plan with the Mac
is were gonna end up breaking the commercial tree and..
It sounds like he was talking to some Mac people and this was the agreed upon
approach
Well he didnt talk to me and he didnt talk to ..Ill find out Ill talk to him at 10
if Im still here Ill call him then if not Ill call him from home Ill probably still
be here
Til OK were actually were in better shape for the Mac on Java than we are for
security
really
all the stuff and you didnt throw the switch
Now thatll get us out of merge hell so we wont have to fight with other people
and then we can go on continue de-bugging
By another day or two
Truth be known it gets us little bit out of the limelight but the reality is we still
start getting
Yeah yeah but at least other people wont be waiting for us so lets..
Does that sound reasonable Is it cheating way to thats how we relax the
people Its-its gettingits too intense like its like
I-i-i-it allows us to stabilize whatever dumb thing you do
Right laughs
Makes us
Right and now we can try throwing the switch and we can also call up the next guy
and say why dont you try throwing the switch and help us debug whats going
on in alot of
they
and well have an easier time spreading the load and getting
L2
some processing right so
Do you know who works for these days Is he at now
dont know
garbled sounds
Really annoying bell in your ear for the past few sentences
Now thats the plan for 10 oclock right now And you know were just looking
at it and guessing when it doesnt work out..
Pc f/Jft7
page
Netscape Documentary
Tape 15 3/10/98
ambient sound
2-
Are you guys X-heads in the skies
Uh no
Okay
So youre off the hook Never mind
did know that Whats his number Call him at who
Hang on-whatis it
494-..
You dont need power Geez therere all these wonderful people there at
Netscape you know...you know and your socialite extraordinaire and this is your
big chance to broaden your horizon and uh
What else we got here..
What is it youre trying to talk me into at Netscape..
Just come over and just take look at where our head is..
Okay..
This..
Its not that hard
Hey how you doing
All right
You feel like shit
All right need an X-Head and all of you are gone need someone whos like
fairly reasonable with like the stuff for Java script Who would that be
77 bleep7
page 10
Netscape Documentary
Tape 15 3/10/98
God these
Yes we did
We went over the Moz-Moz light
Yep 826-5285 Where does he live
How are things going with Mozilla.corn do you think
Oh Christ...alight whats his number
Urn the mail coding is still think people are really upset about it
Have you started to publicize that and say stuff about it
No mean Im still trying to make it go out and urn..
think even if youre gonna make it go out it doesnt hurt to go public and say
youre worried about it..
Well weve already mentioned that we have this problem with the database code
they know that its not gonna work if it does go out
Think of it this way them might be three things two things that cant go out so it
we bring up three that are giving us trouble and we save one were fighting ..the
claim is were trusting the net so...Tara was saying that it really makes sense to..
break
TH
Romero
this is Tara we have bit of panicked emergency do you know
anything about the thirding functions and the XFP that calls into Java and Java
Script
Yeah well essentially yeah theyre getting deeper and doope into in and theyre
trying to figure out what the hells going on So MacAfee said either you or Tosha
and you were closer so tried you first...all right Ill give him
page 11
Netscape Documentary
Tape 15 3/10/98
Its all based on an environment variable..
Right and how are we going to do an environment variable the meg system on the
Mac and get project files
TM Hi Chris its Tara...um how much do you love me Good What do you know
about like threading stuff that falls into Java stuff and Java makes it feed OK
were you following this thread on heads that we were having in the last day or
two about ..OK so the Java guy has hit
really big huge brick wall If you were
conferenced called into bunch of engineers you think you might be able to offer
some insight on this
Nick Thompson he went away. .oh man all right well yeah ..they bugged into
the XFE and think thats where the problem there may be some residual fit rock
stuff that were just now seeing because of some IF DEPs that we were using that
we werent supposed to use so..
Were going to go in and that will
get us out of merge hell so we wont have to
worry about merging and well be able to de bug and we can spread the debugging
further across ..get an guy to pull the tree and help us to figure out what the
blank is going on So thinks this helps to get us out of merge hell help release
the tree and get us some more assistance So dont
like the release the tree part
TH like that to...Cochack says once you get something up and running hes got the
source in front of him you can conference call him in but he says the person
teal1ywant is Nick Thompson laughter Thats what said
Well no thats not gonnàhappen He no longer works here
So...whats gonna happen with
TM OK were shutting this...well thats for
security and Java For either for both
You ohoLId be
o7 t3
page 12
Netscape Documentary
Tape 15 3/10/98
Were not gonna worry about it
TH You should be
Oh theres something dont know then
TH Well ..means that the switch that we have to throw..
JR Is gordie going to be here late tonight Does he need any help
hes coming back at 10 and so is Rick so were going to be working Windows
were gonna get Windows straightened out but it sounds like the plan with the Mac
is were gonna end up breaking the commercial tree and..
It sounds like he was talking to some Mac people and this was the agreed upon
approach
Well he didnt talk to me and he didnt talk to ..Ill find out Ill talk to him at 10
if Im still here Ill call him then if not Ill call him from home Ill probably still
be here
Til OK were actually were in better shape for the Mac on Java than we are for
security
really
